Subject	Declining a proper tune is always foolishness...
Posted by	ConVerTT on February 08, 2012 at 8:06 PM
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In Reply To	More info posted by Russell@Z1 on February 08, 2012 at 07:28 PM
Message	especially with a lot of money invested. Releasing a car without a proper tune is also foolishness and plays hell with your reputation and brand because Murphy's Law is in fact a law. Shit does happen! That said, if these are the facts, then I agree that all bets are off after the car leaves your premises.
Follow Ups	My Bad Z1 motorsports Experience - Cedrick Brigham 16:31:36 02/08/12 For $22K you should have Russell's home number..."he's.. - gizmo 16:37:32 02/08/12 From the time I've spent here on tt.net, I've definitely - Multi_Read (MO) 16:39:28 02/08/12 There is more than one side to this story. - John@Z1 16:56:24 02/08/12 Hmmm....So what is the other side? (n/m) - ZXoltan 17:04:11 02/08/12 Hilarious. (n/m) - zmenon 17:47:11 02/08/12 Re: There is more than one side to this story. - Cedrick Brigham 18:04:21 02/08/12 Keep that cell number handy. TTY tomorrow with deatils. (n/m) - John@Z1 18:12:03 02/08/12 they are definitely not known for their customer service - whip 17:03:25 02/08/12 22k and you got a USED motor and BAD turbos?? - new2boost 17:14:48 02/08/12 You think he only got a used motor for $22k? - SactoTodd 18:27:16 02/08/12 It's not a bad turbo the 535s are good. (n/m) - John@Z1 18:33:13 02/08/12 True but 22k seriously?? - new2boost 18:47:33 02/08/12 It left at 16psi due to a decline on dyno tuning. (n/m) - John@Z1 19:01:34 02/08/12 yes, have you tried pricing some of the parts for your build - vulcanrush 20:30:27 02/08/12 Agreed. $22k doesn't go that far especially when you are - Wright (Ca) 20:48:14 02/08/12 Eh.. fair enough. (n/m) - new2boost 21:20:30 02/08/12 But $22k ought to get you a car that works. Z1 is supposed - zellamay 05:47:54 02/09/12 agreed, wheels/tires BBK's, that's what? at least 5 if not 7 - LJZTT 08:34:41 02/09/12 I will point out that he said he got other upgrades too - CoHPhasor 18:40:55 02/08/12 Id be rocking MSP manis, tbs,JWT cams, V3 massives, - new2boost 18:49:57 02/08/12 There was a lot of parts installed. Not just engine - John@Z1 18:56:45 02/08/12 Ok so give us an exact rundown of what went into the - new2boost 19:03:23 02/08/12 No screwing (n/m) - John@Z1 19:12:14 02/08/12 Ok so in a nutshell mods include - Cedrick Brigham 19:30:35 02/08/12 The car must be SEXY! - new2boost 19:40:20 02/08/12 Better than Sexy - Cedrick Brigham 02:14:33 02/09/12 This isn't a Honda, its a Z32 (n/m) - Z_Pilot 16:18:33 02/09/12 shouldn't that be upto the customer to post ? ask him - ztunerz 19:09:40 02/09/12 what's the point of this post? (n/m) - vulcanrush 19:01:19 02/08/12 Re: My Bad Z1 motorsports Experience - !Z! 17:14:48 02/08/12 That's a weak argument...don't assume everyone does - qqqqqqqman 17:25:20 02/08/12 I would say the exact opposite, actually. - dogpile 17:36:01 02/08/12 Dogpile, I some what agree. But I would test the car to see - John@Z1 17:49:55 02/08/12 I have had my new motor in for about 3 weeks - toykoz32 18:13:54 02/08/12 If I did the work myself, yes. If I had someone else do it, - dogpile 18:27:23 02/08/12 Agreed. I babied mine after only spending $9k. - rojoloco (San Diego) 01:14:23 02/09/12 Not taking sides just basically saying somebody is either ly - BoneZ (MD) 22:12:23 02/08/12 I'm sure there's an explanation. - ChaseGrayTT 17:16:51 02/08/12 If you are going to ship your car somewhere and spend - modnar 17:25:25 02/08/12 Re: If you are going to ship your car somewhere and spend - Cedrick Brigham 17:58:52 02/08/12 or Greg & Seb at SpecialtyZ (n/m) - MixManMash 18:13:46 02/08/12 The reason this car has an issue is not from work that we - John@Z1 18:26:17 02/08/12 Cedric is a great guy and was not taken for a ride. - John@Z1 17:44:49 02/08/12 Ay dog ay (n/m) - ChaseGrayTT 18:27:14 02/08/12 LOL, how's the car? You send that Selin device back yet? (n/m) - John@Z1 18:34:19 02/08/12 Nope lol. Just took off the Hell It's Daylights. - ChaseGrayTT 18:40:03 02/08/12 Sounds familiar. They don't even backup the parts that - MixManMash 18:15:05 02/08/12 Seems pretty common for people doing big builds at Z1, but - FuerGrissa 18:20:08 02/08/12 Which people is this a recent thing? - John@Z1 18:31:17 02/08/12 common may be the wrong word, I'll take it back - FuerGrissa 18:59:08 02/08/12 looking back at everything - Cedrick Brigham 18:39:05 02/08/12 It all depends on the condition of your original engine. - CmyZ 18:49:21 02/08/12 Not really. We should have just did a stage 2 block - John@Z1 18:52:49 02/08/12 Right, you "should have just did a stage 2 block". (n/m) - zellamay 20:37:49 02/08/12 "and left the Volk wheels off the ticket" (n/m) - ConVerTT 21:34:43 02/08/12 Lmao... more Z1 Drama..... (n/m) - Zski 18:59:45 02/08/12 More info - Russell@Z1 19:28:27 02/08/12 Seriously.... NO WARRANTY?? - ZXoltan 19:38:46 02/08/12 Why stand behind your work when you can shrug and point at a - Polish 20:00:52 02/08/12 We agree to provide the quality parts and services - Russell@Z1 20:24:39 02/08/12 Seriously, you say "we are the Z experts", and then - zellamay 20:35:37 02/08/12 An educated consumer wouldn't be your customer. (n/m) - Evan(CA) 20:44:25 02/08/12 I was thinking the same thing... (n/m) - FairladyProject93 21:42:07 02/08/12 Ding!!! We have a winner. (n/m) - MixManMash 07:57:58 02/09/12 laughable. Customer has until they get off the lot to notice - FuerGrissa 10:03:15 02/09/12 how can you have NO GUARANTEE?! - SimaYi 19:59:07 02/08/12 Declining a proper tune is always foolishness... - ConVerTT 20:06:59 02/08/12 I agree it would be foolishness but that is not the case - Cedrick Brigham 01:25:16 02/09/12 Your response below seems very credible - ConVerTT 08:22:28 02/09/12 So you put his car on a dyno without his permission . . . . - toykoz32 20:08:45 02/08/12 Re: So you put his car on a dyno without his permission . . . . - ChaseGrayTT 00:29:15 02/09/12 Never heard of him, when I think OG i think Jim Wolfe or - toykoz32 20:54:45 02/10/12 I am glad someone else said it! - ConVerTT 22:17:00 02/11/12 Re: So you put his car on a dyno without his permission . . . . - ChaseGrayTT 05:59:33 02/09/12 Sorry, no excuse here. No matter what the customer says - zellamay 20:21:21 02/08/12 Cliff notes: "Sorry dude, already got your money" (n/m) - Evan(CA) 20:23:57 02/08/12 more like: "We fixed it. He re-broke it" - LJZTT 08:59:33 02/09/12 Russel I look forward to speak with you tomorrow - Cedrick Brigham 01:09:23 02/09/12 you are handling this with a lot of class and patience - vulcanrush 10:59:00 02/09/12 IMHO would have been better if you didn't post at all in the - BigTDogg (MA) 08:21:46 02/09/12 Link to list of parts and services provided for $22K >> - Russell@Z1 12:10:38 02/09/12 Probably a wise decision... - ConVerTT 12:45:43 02/09/12 "However it is at our discretion" - MixManMash 12:50:00 02/09/12 Vuk must be helping with these engine builds. - HighPsi (NorCal) 17:47:58 02/09/12 If you actually read all our posts it should be clear - Russell@Z1 08:52:14 02/10/12 It's clear that this was not an engine build. (n/m) - Russell@Z1 10:02:27 02/10/12 Obviously. - HighPsi (NorCal) 13:39:05 02/10/12 You are proving your own ignornace (n/m) - Russell@Z1 14:50:17 02/10/12 ::Thumbs Up:: Keep up the good work. (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 17:20:33 02/10/12 Pathetic. People need to stop giving Z1 money. (n/m) - Polish 19:37:43 02/08/12 For $22k, it ought to have a brand new IPP motor, - zellamay 20:26:55 02/08/12 Should have gone to ZTuner. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 21:19:14 02/08/12 Or SpecialtyZ (n/m) - FairladyProject93 21:45:53 02/08/12 I would have recommended rebuilding the motor. I will say - ztunerz 18:08:34 02/09/12 Thanks for sharing Cedrick. - BoneZ (MD) 22:20:50 02/08/12 Z1... - Hyjaxe 22:48:31 02/08/12 Actually when u have service done at the Stealership - ZXoltan 06:14:05 02/09/12 most dealerships would touch a z32 now and none would - ztunerz 19:07:53 02/09/12 You'd have to be new to this board, or suffering from - 240Z FeO2 02:39:45 02/09/12 Oh yeah?! Well, I may have alzheimer's, but at least I don't - LJZTT 08:30:21 02/09/12 LOL! (n/m) - Mr.Stacy 11:41:29 02/09/12 No need for further comment, what's done is done - Rob'Z 07:26:14 02/09/12 ^^^^^ - TTZEDHEAD 10:34:31 02/09/12 Installing a used engine. - JMartz 08:28:50 02/09/12 Re: Installing a used engine. - TTZEDHEAD 10:25:13 02/09/12 This was a good engine when installed & when it left Z1 - Russell@Z1 09:00:32 02/10/12 Z1 should know better now than to even sell used/ Jdm motors - Jkova300z 08:53:45 02/09/12 that's one expensive green N.... (n/m) - LJZTT 09:10:32 02/09/12 Handing a kid a 500hp Z freshly redone - eriksu9 09:42:26 02/09/12 It had an acceptable generic tune. Just as many of you are - Russell@Z1 09:18:57 02/10/12 Here is John @ Z1 own words - eriksu9 13:31:18 02/10/12 Correct it didn't have a custom tune and we do recommend - Russell@Z1 14:55:15 02/10/12 The vast majority of the parts and services he paid for - Russell@Z1 10:00:45 02/10/12 Regardless how this turns out... - Z DNA 09:12:43 02/09/12 Devil's Advocate! - TTZEDHEAD 10:14:27 02/09/12 not really, it's pretty obvious, he either picked up a good - LJZTT 12:35:23 02/09/12 >>> - ztunerz 18:21:05 02/09/12 Sorry to hear. If only more people heeded the warnings. (n/m) - SeedyROM 00:20:28 02/10/12
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